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Posted - 2014.08.18 00:41:00 -
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Agatir Solenth wrote:
1.There will not be any changes as a result of any of the feedback provided by the wormhole community, regarding the announced Hyperion changes.
CCP Fozzie made it clear that all of the changes will be put into the game. Some of the actual numbers have been adjusted. I do not think that it was a result of player feedback, any changes were already in the works during the SiSi release.
Well, from my POV, 99% of feedback on this forum is noise. 90% is carebears and farmers including all the C5 bears, whining that it's harder for them to farm safely. They frame their feeback like this:
"This change is bullshit, it's ******, **** you CCP, more asterixes! It affects MY game how I play it and hoe MY corp plays the game. I do not like change, i do not want to relearn or adapt to anything, I have MY methods down and MY INCOME is threatened and I MAY LOSE MY SHIPS BECAUSE I SUCK.
That is not feedback. it is noise. You have 56+ pages on the mass rolling thread and, honestly, 55 of them could be deleted because it is the above whining.
Feedback is what I, and very, very few others have been providing. It is reasoned, uses data, has analysis and conclusions (wrong as they may be) and most crucially, proposes alternatives.
I accepted that the change was going through and proposed a set of numbers I thought fairer and more reasonable. It's up to Fozzie to consider my arguments and consider the maths and adjust his numbers a bit.
Quote:2.CCP Fozzie nor CCP has a clear concept of what they want from wormhole space, but have a clear idea of what they DO NOT want.
4.CCP Fozzie does not like the capital escalation ISK/hour rate for wormhole space. He even went so far as to say that it is by far superior to incursions. He hinted that heGÇÖd like to see it reduced./quote]
It seems what they do not want are neckbeards forming farming empires in complete safety deep in C4 space.
They do not want people using the API kill logs to log on trap with gank capital alts (BU/QEX).
They do not want unbreakable exploitative officer Chimeras toadsitting in C5 and C6 Pulsars.
They do not want unbreakable Slowcat blobs in C5 and C6 CV.
They seem happy with C5 and C6 Magnetars for some reason.
They seem to think their changes to Red Giants mean a damn this side of giving the Supplemental Coolant Injector a rework (haha bombs, spare me).
The changes to Black Holes are better than nothing, but we'll just see where the meta goes on this.
ALL of this it is directed towards limiting the excesses that creative pilots can achieve in C5 and C6 cap escalations using effects. That strikes at the heart of the farmers, which is fine by me.
[quote]5.The statistics support that there is as much mining going on in w-space now, as there was when ore sites were a cosmic signature. Eexpect those sites to remain anoms. (No data was given on what types of ships are doing that mining. I think it is safe to safe, it is being done by a lot more frigates than barges.)
You know nothing, john Snow. No one mines in Ventures. The yield/hr is too poor to bother. The majority of mining, IMHO, occurs in C4 space where you can close yourself off with ease and do not regularly mix with the rage-rolling C5 crowd and rarely see visitors from K-space. Given, as it is currently, you get plenty of warning of an inbound sig spawning, there's very little risk.
I rarely see mackinaws in C2 and C3 space (except K346 holes). I rarely see retrievers in C2 holes. I see them, exclusively, POSed up in C4's, but almost never kill them, due to the naff inbound sig spawn.
The sole change that will kick this in the guts is the delayed sig spawn until jump-through, NOT necessarily the extra sigs in C4's. As pointed out elsewhere, if the residents don't actually jump through, their outbound side will not exist.
Will this see wormhole mining decline? Not neccessarily. It'll jjust prevent ppeople sucking max yield in shinies and yield-bonused ships with no backup or d-scanning whatsoever.
If nullbears can adjust to be 100% safe and inside a POS shield 100% of the time, by mining in dead-end nullsec systems more than 5 AU across, then I'm sure the C4 mining bears will adjust.
J's before K's.
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